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Joh · Jul 18, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18

This is why my guild never joined an alliance (partly). We figured we would gain nothing from it since none of us are especially fond of fame farming. If we didn't join an alliance, we could still choose which side to play for individually. We would never be able to buy an outpost either way with these prices, so we have no point in donating faction to an alliance. Now we are in an Alliance though, but I keep my Alliance-chat off at all times, and has barely talked to anyone since we joined.

TheYellowKid · Aug 01, 2006, 09:10 PM // 21:10

lol i hate people like you (in the nicest possible way), out of 100 people i kno maybe 20 because the rest dont speak, but yea i was a bit aprehensive at first but in my alliance its all good, some people are looking to buy/sell things but why shouldnt they? up to 1000 people and your not allowed to ask if one of them has the item your looking for, imo it speeds up the whole process and you may get it for a discount. I tend to give stuff away on a.chat like the other day i gave away everything off a character i was deleting. In general though theres just a lot of friendly banter going on WTS spam isnt allowed but your allowed to ask once or twice, ive never found it a problem.

Also even if you dont want to gain a town an alliance is still benificial for whatever your doing, I know a lot of my members have had help from alliance members completing missions, taught farm runs, going for titles etc just depends how you want to use it

Caethas Turan · Aug 02, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

I'm with a PvP guild .. though we still do PvE every so often .. we're lucky that the other alliances are similiar to us, but we do get the random comments, from obvious "idiots" and I will be the first to say sometimes we just retalliate because it's funny watching them. But ...

To be honest ... I liked it when only the Leader and the Officers could talk .. not the entire guild .. it made it feel .. oh I don't know ... "Special"

IMHO

Kestral Pureheart · Aug 02, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

I think part of the problem is all the nice friendly chat tends to happen on guild chat, and alliance chat is only used for "need help with mission" type things. A few people do say Hi etc on it, but most don't. This doesn't help with building up links between the allied guilds...

Sir Mad · Aug 02, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by Eviance

They don't kick guilds supposedly so those who aren't with high amounts of faction are just idling. Some of my guildies plan to try and get us kicked out I think - in hopes it will force them to look at their policies and such a little closer...>_>

It seems to imply you've joined a factions farming alliance, isn't it?

I was in FF alliances before, and I have to say both alliances were like what you describe. The reason is simple: if you wanna be a "strong" alliance - the kind of alliance that controls major cities (or even probably remote outposts), you need... factions farmers. Players with free time and nothing better to do than repeating the same thing all day to get factions. And who can do that? Kids. The alliances I was in had to fill their ranks with whoever can bring factions to stay in the competition, which means a bunch of annoying kids were accepted to keep the factions high. Of course, out of the 10 guilds of the alliance, a few of them were more restrictive and did not suffer such immature players. But those guilds generally had the alliance chat off as well, because they could bear the spam. So yeah, spamming kids seem to take over the alliance chat of the main alliances (main, in this case = controlling towns). We also had a "no WTS" policy, but it never really worked. And as said before, the players pissed by this spam just turned off the alliance chat of the time, abandoning it to the spammers.

Would it be better if ANET reverts the system so only officers can talk? Yes, definitely, for those alliances. Should ANET do that? No, I don't think so.

Most of the alliances in this game are not about factions farming. They're just made of friends who wanna be together. When my guild got kicked from the 2nd "large" alliance I was talking about, we joined an anonymous alliance, made of players who just wanted to play the game without having to worry about boring stuff like factions farming. And there was no spam at all.

So yes, what you describe is definitely a problem for the large alliances, but I do believe it's not the case for the majority of the alliances. It really sucks for those alliances - and this problem is one of the reasons why I don't think I'll ever join one of them again, but there's no much ANET can do about that, without penalizing more players even.

Commander Ryker · Aug 02, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

In our alliance we don't wts or wtb because we don't sell each other stuff, we give it away. Our alliance chat is for hello's, good byes and orgainizing pvp's or getting help on missions.

Instead of changing it back to officers only, maybe anet could make it where the alliance leader decides to make it all chat or officers only. That would solve the problem for all. I like having it with everyone. That way, we all get to know each other. I can understand the problems with bigger alliances tho.

As far as turning in faction......we don't insist on that either. We aren't interested in taking over anything and I'd rather people spend it on jadeite or amber to sell.

TheYellowKid · Aug 03, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

i feel sorry for those who have probs with alliance chat it must suck, the best method would be if new levels were introduced into the guild roster then you could promote people to be able to speak on alliance chat and demote those that abuse it, im sure this method would sort it out because who wants to be in the lowest ranks.. also would make members feel special instead of everyone wanting to be officers

lucifair · Aug 05, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

yes...i would like it if the leader could give and or remove ac privleges...some members of my guild shouldnt be in ac...same wit members in the alliance...when they join the guild they have to prove that they are mature enought to be unleashed on ur allied guilds :P

Eviance · Aug 21, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Ah since my thread seems not to have died.... >_> We finally disbanded from our old alliance and joined one just for the fun and people in the other guilds that we were friends with. I still have alliance chat turned off most of the time out of habbit. But there is so much less spam and since most of the members are from IRC we typically just talk there.
It's also a much smaller alliance so its not filled with near as much stupidity. I do hope that our old alliance was able to fix whatever issues it had or at the very least regain control of its alliance to again hold a town. *shrugs* Anyways, it all eventually worked out and I didn't have to throw my monitor across the room to accomplish it

Jul 18, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#21
Joh Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: Lucid Dreams [LD]	This is why my guild never joined an alliance (partly). We figured we would gain nothing from it since none of us are especially fond of fame farming. If we didn't join an alliance, we could still choose which side to play for individually. We would never be able to buy an outpost either way with these prices, so we have no point in donating faction to an alliance. Now we are in an Alliance though, but I keep my Alliance-chat off at all times, and has barely talked to anyone since we joined.

Aug 01, 2006, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#22
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	lol i hate people like you (in the nicest possible way), out of 100 people i kno maybe 20 because the rest dont speak, but yea i was a bit aprehensive at first but in my alliance its all good, some people are looking to buy/sell things but why shouldnt they? up to 1000 people and your not allowed to ask if one of them has the item your looking for, imo it speeds up the whole process and you may get it for a discount. I tend to give stuff away on a.chat like the other day i gave away everything off a character i was deleting. In general though theres just a lot of friendly banter going on WTS spam isnt allowed but your allowed to ask once or twice, ive never found it a problem. Also even if you dont want to gain a town an alliance is still benificial for whatever your doing, I know a lot of my members have had help from alliance members completing missions, taught farm runs, going for titles etc just depends how you want to use it

Aug 02, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44	#23
Caethas Turan Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Guild: Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]	I'm with a PvP guild .. though we still do PvE every so often .. we're lucky that the other alliances are similiar to us, but we do get the random comments, from obvious "idiots" and I will be the first to say sometimes we just retalliate because it's funny watching them. But ... To be honest ... I liked it when only the Leader and the Officers could talk .. not the entire guild .. it made it feel .. oh I don't know ... "Special" IMHO

Aug 02, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33	#24
Kestral Pureheart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Rogues to Riches	I think part of the problem is all the nice friendly chat tends to happen on guild chat, and alliance chat is only used for "need help with mission" type things. A few people do say Hi etc on it, but most don't. This doesn't help with building up links between the allied guilds...

Aug 02, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#26
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	In our alliance we don't wts or wtb because we don't sell each other stuff, we give it away. Our alliance chat is for hello's, good byes and orgainizing pvp's or getting help on missions. Instead of changing it back to officers only, maybe anet could make it where the alliance leader decides to make it all chat or officers only. That would solve the problem for all. I like having it with everyone. That way, we all get to know each other. I can understand the problems with bigger alliances tho. As far as turning in faction......we don't insist on that either. We aren't interested in taking over anything and I'd rather people spend it on jadeite or amber to sell.

Aug 03, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26	#27
TheYellowKid Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Mina Sucks [Blz]	i feel sorry for those who have probs with alliance chat it must suck, the best method would be if new levels were introduced into the guild roster then you could promote people to be able to speak on alliance chat and demote those that abuse it, im sure this method would sort it out because who wants to be in the lowest ranks.. also would make members feel special instead of everyone wanting to be officers

Aug 05, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13	#28
lucifair Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Guild: [NErd] Profession: N/Mo	yes...i would like it if the leader could give and or remove ac privleges...some members of my guild shouldnt be in ac...same wit members in the alliance...when they join the guild they have to prove that they are mature enought to be unleashed on ur allied guilds :P

Aug 21, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#29
Eviance Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Eh I forget... o_O Guild: Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP] Profession: R/	Ah since my thread seems not to have died.... >_> We finally disbanded from our old alliance and joined one just for the fun and people in the other guilds that we were friends with. I still have alliance chat turned off most of the time out of habbit. But there is so much less spam and since most of the members are from IRC we typically just talk there. It's also a much smaller alliance so its not filled with near as much stupidity. I do hope that our old alliance was able to fix whatever issues it had or at the very least regain control of its alliance to again hold a town. shrugs Anyways, it all eventually worked out and I didn't have to throw my monitor across the room to accomplish it